PT: Classes balancing part 1, Gigantic Cave(Fungal Forest + Crystal Cave), LoD, LoS

[Xaronas]

• add “naturally dropped” drop tables to dungeons somehow, that increase the drop rates of items found in dungeons that are naturally spawned in the realm as opposed to keys

Very good idea! I hope deca implements this. Additionally, the key popper (and only him) could have the same drop rates as the “natural drop rates”

[RMGnoob]

Nice melees you’re using there.

Doesn’t even look like you’ve played the game in months.

You’re as fake as they come.

I would advise against comparing Realmeye pages, that’s not going to go well for you.

tell me why small voids are done with warriors.

Tell me why BTEL does his MBC solo with a warrior.

I thought all melees were bad, now Warrior is an OP class?

In fact as the game currently stands a carefully crafted and coordinated group can benefit more from the current buffs than a larger group.

So what you’re saying is, the new update will make the difference between Discord groups and normal play less extreme?

Wizard doesn’t status enemies. Wizard is used because it deals dmg.
Warrior doesn’t status enemies. Warrior is used because it buffs dmg.
Pally doesn’t status enemies. Pally is used because it buffs dmg.

That’s exactly what he’s saying: changing the way debuffs work makes classes other than those 3 more viable in endgame.

[Jungix]

I fear that it is packaging so many changes together, makes some people just throw their hands up and say “it’s all shit I hate Deca” because it is so difficult to imagine how everything will be affected due to all the changes, including lots of fundamental new concepts, it’s easier to simply hit “nope, reject” on the whole thing. Like the frog in the boiling water players would react calmer if each change was gradual and they have time to adjust to the new things.

Tauntauned:

Assuming that I "threw my hands up and said “nope, reject” is untrue. I put a lot of thought into my response to this update. And while I like the new dungeon/reworks, the rest I do not like.

[Seelpit]

Anyone else suffering from some really frequent and long lag spikes?
They’re definitely server-side, as far as I can tell.

[Xaklor]

The US testing server appears to be struggling, try switching to the EU one

[Chennitoa]

Probably lag. Did you tank a lot of shots before this video?

[Ancienther]

its been so long finally

[RayrTheII]

Doesn’t seem like it. I dodged every shot for the last 30 seconds before that moment (other than that 150 shot that I took in the video)

[RayrTheII]

Before I actually say my thoughts on the new cave dungeons, here’s what I have done:

• solo tested both pet and petless classes, although primarily with petless
• reached the boss of the fungal forest, although I haven’t actually killed it
• never reached the boss of the crystal cave

Some things I’ve noticed in the fungal forest:

• You can stasis every single enemy, including the boss!
• Stasising the head of some worms causes the body of said worm to not shoot bullets and not move, making it super easy to kill (including the boss!!!)
• Stasising the body of any worms does not keep the body segment still. They will be stasised yet move along with the head as if they weren’t stasised.
• There is a room that has a diagonal line of blue (water?). The water in general slows down your movement drastically, and there are many chasing enemies in this dungeon. I believe this room is simply too dangerous, since there are times when you have to cross this, allowing the enemy to catch up and shotgun you.

Some thoughts of the dungeon as a whole:

• The art style, especially the projectiles, seems completely out of place.
• As a person who mains without a pet, I found this dungeon especially tedious to clear. This is coming from a person who clears almost any dungeon that drops pots, including snake pits. I honestly don’t know why I think this pair of dungeons in particular is tedious to clear, since I find lost halls fun to clear.
• The combination of the time it takes to clear and its tedious nature is the reason why I haven’t tried too hard to actually complete the dungeon. I just didn’t have the motivation.

Thoughts about everything else:

• The reworked LOD and Shaitans are amazing, despite it being difficult enough for me to be unable to solo. I have absolutely 0 complaints about it (I like difficult dungeons).
• I agree with pretty much everything dys said about the class balances, and we both agreed outside the post that it would be better to rebalance all abilities with this in mind. For example, all shields including scutum should have the same stun immunity duration, so scutum is actually worth using.

[Seelpit]

The EU one had the same problem, though to a lesser extent later last night.
I’ve got footage of it happening at the end of a petless LoD solo, causing the Wyvern to be stuck forever (like I posted in the LoD rework thread).

[Seelpit]

Welp, testing’s closed.
At least we know this is coming for sure.

Edit: Rather than giving me the admin-only error, I apparently was denied access because Character class not available? I guess Samurai’s excluded from the Season of Pirate…

[Heteraabd]

lol

[Novachiz]

Wait you can use that mode on testing even when its closed?

[Seelpit]

Not afaik - that was just the error it gave me when I picked Samurai .w.

[RyanYoon]

What is that, do you know? I haven’t seen that mentioned basically anywhere (Most likely cause I took a pretty long break)

[Seelpit]

[Spoilers] Supreme ST Bonus Campaign Info, Slight Challenger (NPE) Mode Info and this Weekend's Event Info

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[Ancienther]

what is that again I forgot

[Novachiz]

basically a ppe challenge server

[Chennitoa]

Congratulations then. You have caught an example of stacked shots. Now, nobody enter this dungeon when it actually comes out or we all screwed to hell.

[PrimeGrind]

I agree with you. Discords are much more viable than disorganised, public farming. I think people are holding onto what was realm was, which is solo farming/play with random people as support. (I personally think that solo farming is more enjoyable, but I can see your point)

Discords remind me of organised raids in WoW, where everyone is in a voice call being led by a few leaders. Maybe thats where realm is headed, a generic mmo rpg.