"The Decoy Problem"

[WanDwarfV]

I’m not saying that Trickster is overpowered and needs a nerf. The part I’m addressing to OP’s post is how Trickster’s only value comes from its decoy and decoy only, whilst other classes have tons of utility:

Unlike the knight, trickster does not have much use other than decoying, save for rushing. Rushing however is not useful in bossfights, and quite a few players choose not to embark on this playstyle. If knight can’t stun, it has access to slow, armorbreak, or plain raw damage to make up for it, while trickster only has its decoys. The only things it has for damage is the new ST one (which I still have yet to get and experience), ghostly (which is quite fun but only works at a close melee range leaving it extremely tricky for general use), and dire instability (which is extremely underrated and fun, but quite tricky to utilize outside of chase phases [seriously go into a solo halls and spam this thing on crusades it’s a drug]). As a utility class, it does not have any utility besides its decoy. The assassin ends up with much more general utility than this class if decoys are blocked. I think that if this trend continues, this may lead into an era where the class is either an overpowered god, or purely a rusher that serves little to no purpose during bossfights.

Since DECA is deciding to make more bosses immune to the trickster’s decoy, much like how major debuffs not working on bosses, I’m trying to provide alternative solutions that can make the class still viable.

I strongly disagree with reducing Trix’s damage. It’s by far the hardest dagger class to play, arguably the hardest of all classes. Prisms are hard to use, even harder to use well. This also makes it one of the most dangerous classes to play as when a decoy doesn’t work it has only its leather armour to save it. It can move fast and teleport, but that can get you into trouble as well as out of it.

While trickster is a difficult class to use, OP also claimed that the majority of the community mastered the art of prisms as well. Since new stuff added and reworked in the game is geared towards endgame players, difficulty of a class shouldn’t be a priority, especially when taking into consideration the glass cannon wizard endgame players use, due to its weakness of being vulnerable not mattering much with skill.

So it deserves to do more damage, to fully exploit the times decoys work. or when they don’t, or are ineffective due to game design, they can get in at least a little damage before they are forced to back off due to taking damage.

The knight also has to exploit the time it has when the enemy is stunned to do it’s damage. But it has the lowest dps stats out of all the swords? And it doesn’t have the dps buffs that the other swords have? Defense doesn’t matter as much in the endgame either. But despite that people still play endgame knight because they have viable dps shields like buckler and escuhon, and powerful debuffs like ogmur. If knight only had stun ability and a bunch of mediocre UTs, no one would play knight.

And what was my suggestion for trickster? More utility. If it still had almost maxed dps stats along with more utility than assassin or rogue, people wouldn’t even touch the other dagger classes (i mean, more than they already aren’t anyways). It would become a better solo than rogue, whose entire point is to be a solo class. Trickster could fulfill becoming the ultimate utility dagger class, using debuffs and other types of tricks to help the group.

[XBookwyrmX]

This might not be the proper thread to discuss this in full, but it does remind me of a question that has loomed about my mind for some time now. There’s a sizable stack of things that need balancing and fixing, but what is actually the most important thing(s) to tackle first for the game? Because I think that we all can see things that have had to be rebalanced more than once in previous years because other changes were put into effect, disrupting the balance (sometimes in unprecedented ways, I know).

There might be practical options like the monumental process of redoing the game’s coding again with a better system for stability and less limitations on in-game mechanics because of coding, as DECA admitted to it not being a server problem, but as far as actual game design/mechanics, what’s an order you guys suppose would be most important to address first?

The thought that triggered this in the first place was on the mention of MP boosting from pets being introduced. To take a weak example, abilities (and by proxy, weapons to a degree) would be balanced differently if pets stopped using Heal/MHeal, as would current and future bosses (and yes, a critical buff to vit and wis would be needed to accommodate this new era, but that’s not the point). But powercreep keeps a ton of content near irrelevant in our modern playerbase. And so much work seems to be put into making something newer, exciting and possibly even more ridiculous for the endgame… and yes, there’s been some lesser content added, which is appreciated! But it’s not just weak players running them, and most “weak” players can access more than enough getting carried by the overpowered community’s fighting capabilities. That’s just another example of something that has a large effect on how balancing can and does affect things.

I have more on my mind, but quite frankly, I’m having trouble concentrating enough to finishing this and still making sense, plus the question still remains.

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