Going back to Realm! Any massive changes I should know about?

#24

That’s me right now. Perma-death is surely harsh penalty but it really gets me hooked up. To the point that I don’t translate Chinese lyrics to English that often now @ Vocaloid Lyric Wikia.

Well if there is crucial school work I have to deal with, of course I would be less active like you said. I only play the game if I have time to kill.

Acclaim, GGen, Colo, GCookie, and Elvish are usually worths more than a Life pot. Others like GCatcher Trap, RWaki and so on are usually costs a Life pot.

Did I mention the rings? Non-HP UB rings usually worths a Life (although there are pricing of 1 Def or Mana) while HP worths approximately 8 times more! And not surprisingly, they are rarely used! Tiered rainbows ring needs a buff!

As now, all Event and dungeon bosses’ (except Oryx’s Sanctuary) HP scaling formula is:

However, the formula will be outdated in near future.

The upcoming In Combat/Out of Combat in couple weeks. Many things will change such as:

Armored will get nerfed from 2x defence to 1.5x defence.

Defence cap will be increased from 85% to 90%.

Damaging/Berserk will get nerfed from 50% to 25% (I don’t like this change though, I would prefer more players in a realm/dungeon, the less potent the buffs like this: Combat Steamrolling Suggestion),

IC/OoC will test your dodging skill. If you got hit by at least 15 damage, IC will kick in. It will increases your pet’s H/MH cooldown by 3 seconds (likely to be changed). Adding to that, the upcoming system will rejuvenate Vitality after being considered “useless” for few years because of functional pets.

How it will rejuvenate Vit you ask? Base IC duration is 7 seconds, but each 5 Vit you have, the duration gets reduced by 0.2 second. The would-be formula for that is (may be changed as well):
7-((Vit/5)*0.2) Long story short, more Vit, the faster you will get out of IC.

But no worry, if you are “Out of Combat”, your Vit and Wis will double (likely to be changed) and your pet’s H/MH cooldown returns to normal (probably until full HP and MP).

And many more…

#25

Not looking forward to ic/ooc. As an average player who can complete nests as his hardest dungeon, I think the game will become too hard. I think Deca is making a mistake here. I feel like all these changes are going to really change the game, and I think that if you want to Keep a character alive, then you will have to play VERY cautious which will take a lot of the fun out of the game. This is all just my opinion tho.

#26

That’s just life advice in general and is why I can still play the game after (checks realmeye) 9+ years. Take breaks and don’t feel the need to spend all your time doing content you don’t enjoy for an item or something if there’s other parts of the game you like better.

I disagree here. The game has become almost numbingly easy in some cases. If you have a good pet you don’t even have to dodge in glands anymore (just as an example). Of course, having played before pets existed, I have a different perspective on the difficulty of the game. Certain content is difficult for sure, but the majority is not. I think now that transparency is in the game we can safely change the combat system because you can dodge instead of being forced to grouptank shots you couldn’t see before.

#27

Maybe, but for players like me who have only ever had a few 8/8s and have a rare pet, it will probably become much harder then it is now, and I just feel the game will become a lot less fun when you have to get out of fire and spend more time healing. Then again, it basically is just pet stasis so maybe it won’t change that much.

#28

I see people posting discord links here, so let me give you some advice:

Avoid discords as long as possible. There is nothing more soul sapping than being in a discord call where you have to listen to 2 random RLs talk to eachother. It takes so much fun out of the game and will burn you out fast. Instead try to find a guild of high level players who can do these dungeons. Don’t let discords suck all the fun out of the game for you.

Of course, if you happen to enjoy listening to other’s people conversations and them humble bragging about themselves while not having to worry about anything in a large group in-game, then discords are the place for you

#29
  1. open discord desktop application
  2. join your personal discord with friends
  3. open discord on the website
  4. join soul sucking raid group
  5. mute the website via volume mixer
  6. talk to friend, ignore RL, Kill, loot, get rich.

That being said if you’re new to a dungeon sometimes RLs can actually be helpful.

#30

OMG someone here is actually smart and actually sees the negative consequences of the changes!

This is a bit dishonest because the 50% opacity sucks.

Honestly if you’ve been playing that long I think that your opinion that the game is too easy is invalid.

To be brutally honest, the veteran players like us don’t matter. Deca should not cater to you or me. They should cater to the noobs as they need to attract and retain players.

To BlueTurtel I say again this is the most unfriendly game for new players that I have ever seen and I would strongly reconsider playing the game unless you have a large amount of time to devote and a some of money to get account items.

#31

My main concern is that the game will be too hard to progress in and that I will die on all my characters, rage a little bit, quit for a little bit, decide to give the game another go, rebuild a lot, and then lose everything again. For me, the process of maxing is very much not fun, and I feel like that’s all I will be doing when it comes out. I really don’t know tho, it could improve the game a whole lot, but it also could ruin the game. I don’t know, and I definitely wouldn’t take my opinion on this, but I fail to see a way that this improves the game other then group tanking/steamrolling where you could just increase hp scaling or make all shots pierce.

#32

But… the OoC will help new players to survive longer as they do not have a pet on their early gameplay.

That’s what happened to my 7/8 Archer with a max rare pet, I was playing too reckless with him and ate a Ghost God’s shotgun without knowing it.

#33

Thanks for all the replies! A lot of genuinely useful info.

I’m slowly getting back into the rhythm of the game, and honestly, it’s tons of fun. I think the trick is to just not take it too seriously:sweat_smile:

I’ll definitely be playing regularly for the foreseeable future.

#34

I was so close, the actual formula is shown @ the Wiki.
https://www.realmeye.com/wiki/hp-scaling

Let’s say Janus’s HP scaling as shown in Desmos.

Blue line is my formula.
Green line is what Deca has disclosed or someone else calculated.

But the result, both formulas goes the same direction! Zero difference!

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#40

I mean some RL’s in discords don’t even talk, right? Isn’t that part of the appeal of like SBC

#54

I am experiencing FPS drops in groups of around >30 people that I didn’t experience in flash, being in a group cuts my FPS in half, particles aren’t hidden properly (pet abilities and some abilitiy particles from players simply always show), if I get the “Drunk” effect or go anywhere near cemetery/cland walls or the like I go from 60 to 5 FPS, I still need to ctrl+click to interact with things, UI buttons and inventory aren’t responsive and item previews lag. Also sometimes it takes 3 loading screens to succesfully connect me somewhere (and even when it works loading screens still take too long).

This is overall pretty disappointing since it’s still like this at the very end of flash support but at least we got transparency

#55

I cannot believe getting this thread to stay on topic has now involved moderator intervention TWICE.

if it is somehow of dire importance that BlueTurtel be informed of a gameplay tweak that hasn’t been tested or worked on in any capacity for nearly a year, then refer them to the now somewhat ancient PT thread here and let them be the judge for themselves. you should not hijack their thread to repeatedly and loudly trumpet the exact same arguments you’ve been making for months without end until people start pestering the mods to make you shut up. it’s not like this dreaded ic/ooc system is going to get pushed to prod out of the blue anyway, deca themselves will inevitably be putting out the word as much as possible, and there will obviously be another PT session before it gets pushed. there will be another time when the argument is relevant and anyone who hasn’t seen it for themselves will get another chance to check it out. but that time is not now.

I also think everyone here would benefit from remembering the following:

  1. just because someone says something you think is dumb doesn’t mean you have to jump on the keyboard warrior wagon. this is generally what causes these arguments to start.
  2. just because someone replies to you in an argument doesn’t mean you have to respond to them. you can let them get the last word, especially in a brick wall vs brick wall scenario where all replies are essentially guaranteed to mean nothing. this is generally what causes these arguments to last so long.

@BlueTurtel I sincerely apologize for this mess people seem to insist on turning your help-seeking thread into. based on your own comment it sounds like you’ve gotten what you wanted out of it, so if you’d like I can lock this thread and prevent additional replies from being made. regardless, I will once again trim the irrelevant off-topic replies. your choice whether you’d like the thread to stay open in case anyone has anything else helpful to say, or if you’re done here and we can all move on. for real this time, anyway.

#56

Just a question, not trying to continue discussion, but making another thread just for this would be awkward, has it really not changed at all?

#57

There has only ever been one public session for IC/OOC but there was quite a low turn out. However there was a lot of vocal voices from people who never even went to try it.

But there will be a PT for a new iteration of IC/OOC very very soon so rest assured that it has been worked on.

#58

I am sorry Xaklor, as this is mainly my fault

#59

I think there will be a difference between laggy flash browser (eternal dcs) and exalt

#60

It’s no one’s fault actually, we all tried our best to help BlueTurtel… but gone a bit off track.

I expect another PT in couple days.

#61

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