A longer look at the curious new art style with sound, from YouTube. It sounds like repeated SFX from a 16-bit game, mostly not synched to the ”gameplay“.
Metagods II
Skandling
#6
AMA (ask me anything)
https://medium.com/@PlayMetaGods/metagods-discord-ama-recap-english-4f50cc762e79
Highlights. The game is now due out in July ,but not the final game but Alpha v0.0.1., which anyone familiar with software development knows means something far from actual release. It’s highly unusual to release a public alpha; most developers defer any public release until late beta, and even then tightly control access to it.
Mobile is due a “few weeks after the alpha launch”, but that seems highly unlikely. While you can release unfinished Alpha software on the web you can’t on mobile app stores, where software being finished and working is a basic requirement.
Apart from that lots of complaints about the value of the currency and NFTs tanking. This is not particular to Metagods, the whole crypto market is down 2/3 or more from its peaks. But it does destroy the main argument for buying into a game like this, to make money. Here is one interesting reply on this
This is a huge concern of ours as well. With the current market conditions, it is quite hard to get traction the old way. Quantity was the bull market play, quality is the bear market play. The only way we can get traction is to build an amazing product. The guilds are already ready to activate their scholars and players, so our DAU can get up there.
So it’s going to be Amazing ! Somehow though I doubt this sudden refocus on delivering a quality product is going to make any difference.
Skandling
#7
New roadmap:
So what does a roadmap need that this one’s missing? Dates. Smart, I guess, as it means next time they miss a deadline they don’t need to change this.
The ticks are by things that are done, so everything up to Phase 3. Next up Phase 4 including both Alpha 0.0.1 and “App Release”. I presume that’s the mobile version but as I noted above you can put anything you want out yourself on the web but Apple and Google won’t let you distribute unfinished software on their platforms.
Skandling
#8
A couple of short videos. Supposedly two different classes, the first Necromancer the second Warrior. The Necromancer shoots “burning skulls” but so does the Warrior. They use the same icon for the player avatar, which looks like something drawn by a pre-schooler. Gameplay for their attacks looks the same, even the sound effect is the same (in fact it sounds like exactly the same audio if you play one video then the other). The Necromancer does seem to have other attacks but unlike RotMG abilities it looks like you have to stop using your main attack to use them.
Still looks a long long way from finished. No animations, no shadows. No multiplayer, just single enemies. No indication you are damaging or even hitting enemies, until they die, No indication of the damage you are taking. Some of the art looks nice but it’s a painted background which can’t be interacted with and is inconsistent with much cruder gameplay elements.
The biggest issue is they’ve been showing just this gameplay for months now, which implies it’s all there is: even the limited scrolling dungeons they had six months ago is no longer part of it. We should find out soon – the AMA less than a month ago said it will be released in July in some form.
SheetStain
#9
Will you stop talking? Are you part of this game or something?? You’re pushing it so hard but it literally looks terrible and like a major scam. Just because you lost your money on it doesn’t mean other people have to.
Skandling
#10
I am posting about it to highlight everything that is wrong with it, for two main reasons. First to warn anyone who might discover it and be interested, who is looking for alternatives to RotMG. Second as I find it funny how bad it is. Lots of people agree - my most popular Reddit post was on this. I decided to do follow up posts here though as Realmeye is better for ongoing discussions. And ongoing discussions are especially useful to highlight the worst problems with this – how e.g. the roadmap keeps changing, how they seem no closer to a release than 6+ months ago.
I have nothing to do with it - I am not a player, investor or speculator in it. Nor have I ever been, so I have not lost money on it.
Mathician
#12
If they were promoting the game they wouldn’t also talk shit about that same game. They even outright call it a scam, so they’re definitely not helping with marketing.
Gonna be honest, I’m actually interested in this event as it is RotMG-related since it steals from its graphics. If you don’t want to see this thread, just ignore it.
XBookwyrmX
#13
I see no reason to, as there’s nothing majorly wrong going on here. In all due respect, if you don’t like what you’re seeing, you can ignore it and browse elsewhere.
Skandling
#18
Preview video. Spoiler: you only need to watch the first 90 seconds, less than half of which is gameplay. Everything after that is him exploring the Nexus/Town which is full of things that don’t work.
The gameplay looks the same as they had at the start of this year except the dungeon is even smaller, while the boss fight looks badly broken – he triggers a full screen setting dialog during most of it but doesn’t get killed, then obliterates it with a nuke like attack in seconds.
Skandling
#20
Apparently the game is playable now, but you need to sign up with a crypto wallet, which means spending real money. Doesn’t seem anyone is doing this - except crypto promoters like I’ve already posted.
Noticed a blog post which is illuminating. First a direct quote which is complete BS, unless ‘first’ means something completely different to how we understand it.
That is why our focus is to build a great game first ,
That’s just par for the course for crypto scams, though. Claim your game/art/project is legit and going to be great, while you’re selling worthless tokens to anyone foolish enough to listen.
The more interesting aspect is the post goes into a lot of detail on the game design but doesn’t mention the MMO aspect. It sounds more like a rougelike single player. So another change of direction, again, and still nothing approaching a final game. No mobile version either, which should have appeared months ago.
Gidey
#21
what I want to know is… is this a good scam or not? by “good” I mean “efficient way to scam people from a time and effort perspective”. Clearly the thing has been going on for months now, but if you consider how little effort they might be putting in each month, it might be very efficient if you are willing to wait long term.
Skandling
#22
I am not sure how a scam is “good”. This one seems like the vast majority of game scams. Up front with hype, a flashy website, an ambitious roadmap. Then start selling NFTs, ways to multiply your investment such as staking, land sales. Announce partnerships and other deals to make it seem like there’s a lot of interest.
But at the same time don’t deliver a game. Keep changing the roadmap so it’s always out soon, but never released. Keep showing ideas, art, even screenshots and footage, but these also keep changing. Eventually when you’ve run out of ideas, or run out of people stupid enough to buy your worthless tokens, you close it all down and walk away with whatever people paid in.
Almost all crypto games seem to follow this pattern – they are obviously not working on an actual game, or at least not one anyone would want to play. Which means eventually it will close down, and the tokens, NFTs, land parcels people have bought will all become worthless.
There is only one exception that I know of: Axie Infinity. That was actually a playable game, for a while, even if the gameplay mostly consisted of people in the third world grinding the game mechanics to earn crypto. But its market collapsed at the start of this year, when the rest of crypto crashed, driving away players. Then hackers stole $620m in crypto from it, making it even less likely to recover.
Skandling
#23
It’s been pretty quiet on the Metagods front. Well, it’s a scam so what else would you expect? They are clearly never going to release a finished game. I don’t know why they haven’t just called it a day and shut up shop, as the lack of activity can’t be attracting any new customers.
Curious image posted to Twitter. It looks more like a finished game than anything they’ve shown recently, but a totally different game to the dungeon crawler. There’s no reason this has to represent anything though: it could just be two pieces of character art and a generic background assembled in a graphics package.
Gidey
#24
What do you mean? Street fighter is a well known dungeon crawling bullet hell game. Clearly nothing wrong here.
system
#25
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