RELEASE THE KRATHAN
Some control over regulars?
Atrapper
#5
Werbenja
#10
I’ll take this opportunity to talk directly to @Nevov, then.
So Nevov, I do appreciate your intentions of keeping the forum as clean as possible, but don’t you think sometimes merging new threads with really old ones might surpress possible discussions? I get the impression that people shy away from responding to very old topics, even if the most recent post on it is not that old. For example, this thread and this thread. Correct me if I’m wrong, but ever since you split (splited?) them, noone else replied.
Some topics, like the meaning of star ranks and what the next character class should be, are bound to reappear every once in a while and, by trying to merge all of them, not only you might burn yourself out doing it but you also might disencourage conversations, which is the last thing we want on a forum.
Anyway, I want to know your view on this. All of this coming from someone who likes organization. I’m not talking about you merging countless simple questions about MotMG and whatnot, I think you’re doing a great job at those. By the way, thank you for that.
Anyone else that wants to chime in, please feel free to do so.
Nevov
#11
My main criteria has been to consider how likely people would be to just reply with "see this thread -> " or self-quote type replies. Then also how active/busy the earlier thread was, compared to the new one.
Eg. the Opinion of Star Ranks seemingly a lot of people had an opinion on it (100+ posts, going at over a post per day), made me decide this is the kind of thing that is likely to go around and around every few months, with nothing changing (until they add new classes for example), ergo good for merge. Thinking that few people who posted in the 1st thread would want to go back and merely repeat themselves, but they might be interested in seeing new people’s opinions on the same subject.
There are similar threads I wouIdn’t go near merging, things like Q&A/Game Discussion topics eg. “best ring on priest”, etc, unless they are posted very closely to each other, because the game evolves with new content that can affect people’s responses. A topic+replies from December 2017 wouldn’t be necessarily relevant to someone asking today, bearing in mind the new dungeons.
A bit like the discussion we’ve had about when/why Regulars change people’s topic title’s (use sparingly, etc), this even more so, only when the benefits are clear should a merge be considered. (IMO)
PIGGIESFAR
#12
Come on man, cut 'em some slack. In your case, I find @Nevov an attentive and caring regular. When some stupid IRL “follower” was posting my real name around realmeye, @Nevov removed it for me. This is the point of regulars/mods/leaders, to make sure that the forums are going ok.
Anyway I’m pretty sure mods can remove bad regulars. But there’s no point discussing that cause @Nevov is bae <3
EDIT 1: One night after this post, I got promoted to regular. Coincidence? I think not!
lol im sure @Nevov had nothing to do about it… right…
Tauntauned
#13
I want the regulars to stage a coup and take power and run a brutal dictatorship then have a civil war and install a democracy so we can where we are right now again.
@Nevov you are my comrade and I would gladly share my vodka with you any day
Werbenja
#14
That’s a good point, but it doesn’t adress the issue of diminished post count after the merging.
I wouldn’t mind if you merged the two topics after the new one has already lost steam and both topics are inactive, but merging them too soon seems to inhibit discussion, that’s all I’m saying.
Nevov
#15
I guess we’ll never know whether they naturally attracted little interest due to the topics’ own qualities, or if the merge artificially suppressed interest. One thing, as point of fact, there were 7 replies to the “Star Meaning” topic post-merge, so not literally 0, but yes I understand. It might be too early to judge a trend based on few examples, but I take your point, and will bear it in mind, for sure.
Xaklor
#16
I would like to point out that nearly every single reference to “regular powers” in this thread so far is actually talking about leader powers, meaning that all of this basically applies solely to Shatter and Nevov.
my name hasn’t been mentioned shoo!!! have fun nevov
AznPwnage
#21
When all you want to do is merge some posts but get dragged into an impromptu revolution.
XIYANGYANG
#22
Hey, Nevov, don;t take this personally or anything, I know you are trying to your job, and don’t get me wrong you are great at doing at it. I just want to make sure you know why posts are merged, and if you merge a new post with an old post with a similar subject that is a week old, no one’s going to see, and therefore no discussion will happen. It’s kind of like what @Werbenja was saying. Its like merging two samurai class ideas to one post. Posts are merged to clear up the clutter without affecting discussion, but moving a post to something old will prevent discussion.
Stupidity
#23
Ironically, this is an example of a thread that might benefit from being split. There are two discussions.
- “Control” over users with higher level. Specifically, @Nevov (welcome to the club)
- When to merge/split a topic.
With regard to @Nevov, it sounds like the original thread in the op was handled correctly, but he has indicated that he’s totally open to talking about any of the decisions he’s made. Personally, I don’t expect any of us will be perfect, but I’m completely happy with how it’s gone to promote both @Nevov and @Shatter.
With regard to when to merge/split, I am interested in hearing more people who have an opinion. There are many @moderators calls to merge threads, and I’m not always sure what I think. I like megathreads to handle super common topics, but when there is no blessed megathread I am sometimes torn between merging threads about the same topic and enjoying the differences in conversation.
One thing that I think about merging threads is that sometimes it can be frustrating as someone who just wants to make a post if there are two or more threads about the same thing because once I start typing I have to figure out what goes with this thread, what goes with the other one, and what goes with both.