Is wizard op?


#29

The wizard is by no means an over powered class. The wizard is a god of destruction, yes, but he can be easily get shut down if you don’t know what you are doing. I used to have a maxed wizard and I have had a few maxed knights and I found myself having a harder (but more fun) time with my wizards because everything posed a threat to my life. I had to dodge and yes my long range and pocket nuke was very powerful at dealing damage, but there was a clear trade off with my defensive stats. If you want to look at an over powered class, look towards the knight, this guy just tanks everything and has no hard time dealing large amounts of damage. Getting a perfect spellbomb (and in return, the max damage) takes a little bit of skill. even after hundreds of hours across many accounts it is still challenging to hit a perfect spellbomb, whereas the knights ability all you have to do is stand at sword range and press spacebar. Basically no class in the game is over powered though, as the ultimate enemy to us all is decas potato servers.


#30

Not saying it’s the best all around class either. If we’re saying all around, there is no best class. Soloing, the rogue, dealing damage, wizard IF you land all shots of the spellbomb, healing, priest, staying alive against all odds because freaking stuns and def, knight, there’s a reason to use EVERY single class in the game, they’re all better than another class at something.


#31

Yes, there is no ‘best class’. Every class in the game excels at something different. That’s kinda my point here. Obviously rogue is better for soloing than sorc. and obviously priest is better for staying alive than ninja. But there is a best pick for ‘all-round’ class. And I think that’s wizard. It has medium-high range so it can stay back and survive, and fairly high DPS. It’s not good for soloing, but it’s also not the worst at it. It’s just “okay” at everything.

That’s the entire point of my comment, there is no “best” class period, because rotmg is a pretty balanced game.

However, I was replying to your comment “Depends on your mp heal cough knight” which i disagree with. Even with a high MP heal, I do not believe that knight is the best pick for all-round class.


#32

These are all opinion to be honest. I think a maxed knight with divine mp heal is way more helpful and unbalanced in almost(ALMOST) every situation than a wizard or most other classes. However, without those former conditions, he isn’t because he can’t permanently stun. Wizard is only better all around until you get to that point, but once you reach that point, then yes, I think knight is probably better in most situations. If your up against Oryx 2 and you can’t get a stun in because you can’t circle or something like that, then wizard is better because he can shoot from farm away and doesn’t have to worry. But if you can get 1 in, it’s over and knight instantly reigns supreme. This is also assuming he/she HAS a divine pet, which obviously not many people have. That’s why knight has 50 wisdom, because his ability would make him incredible op if he had 60 or 75. However, wizard has 60, because even though he has higher mana and his mana cost per spell is less than the knight, the wizard’s spell doesn’t make him OP. It is useful everywhere, because it’s just damage, but then again-It’s JUST damage. That’s it. The knight can stun most enemies, while the wizard just does a lot of damage. Useful in taking enemies down quicker, enforcing the “a good offense is the best defense” theme that wizard has. He melts through enemies to keep himself alive, but the knights def and ability to stop enemies from even attacking is way to op to not consider him the best all around class when max. However, if the wizard has a redeeming quality over knight, it would be less def to max, and the fact that wizard makes account rebuilding easier, as wizard can be picked up 0/8 and be maxed easily if you want, because he gets easy soulbound and has the ability to stay back. Also, while knight’s main shield and sword UT swapouts are rare, the wizard can get the Extreme Prejudice relatively easily.


#33

But again, these are all opinions. It could be wizard is better all around for some people, and knight is for others. It comes down to playstyle and skill in that class. I suck at archer (even with uts), but many people consider it to be one of the best classes with a ut set.


#34

#35

Mystic does not get more OP than wizard once you get perma-berserk levels. It barely has more staff dps even when berserked which doesn’t even matter if there’s a warrior nearby and the wizzy’s insane spell burst dps with a high lvl mpheal makes its overall dps still higher, not to mention its burst dps.


#36

Wizard is the squishiest class in the game, there’s no doubt in that.

As such, it cannot always be 100% safe; and therefore I say that Wizard is not overpowered.
However, it is a very strong class in many common situations; as stated earlier by @Zquidx, the more endgame content focuses more on survivability and less on destructive firepower, making a Wizard slightly less effective at its job, being put in its glass cannon role a tad further.

I also agree with @Xaklor’s comments on the spellbomb; however, I disagree that a Scepter can always outdamage a Spell, since the approximate 100 damage/shot with 5 shots in - which is usually not as hard as you make it sound, honestly - usually outdamages the Scepter, as well as out-MP-costing it.
An exception is, of course, the Scepter of Devastation, because that’s just downright devastating.


#37

don’t forget curse, yet another effect the wizard is incapable of applying. it’s the combination of the two that trumps the wizard. the mystic has a very noticeable increase of overall dps over the wizard up to 65 DEF, which includes nearly every enemy in the game, and still technically has more all the way up to 88 DEF

if there’s a warrior nearby, you’re likely in a group. especially if that warrior is nearby enough to render the mystic’s permanent berserk unneeded. if you’re in a group, your individual dps doesn’t really matter at all as the pacing of your game is no longer controlled by your own strength, instead it’s based on the strength of the group. at that point, you only need to inflict enough damage to qualify for loot and the only class weak enough to actually have problems with that is a priest, and I hear they do just fine.

if that’s so true then why do I still plow through enemies faster than them, huh?

every single time a discussion of the wizard comes up everyone always mentions how powerful the spellbomb is, yet in practice it never lives up to that reputation. I haven’t the faintest idea what everyone else’s experience is, but mine is that mystic hits harder, moves faster, and can do way more than a wizard. if you have some sort of further evidence of the effectiveness of the spellbomb I’m all ears, but if all you’ve got boils down to “you’re just not playing wizard right”, then my response is “you’re just not playing mystic right”.

btw, even if you do convince me that wizard is more powerful than mystic, its sluggishness is a real pain in the ass. I’d rather take the +10 SPD any day, and there’s really nothing at all wizards can do about that.


#38

It’s alright. Let’s look at its options.

Cosmic- Bread and butter Staff, can’t go wrong with it.
EP- you have to sit on top of an Enemy, which may or may not be lethal, making its only use on test chests, but SB is so easy to get it doesn’t matter.
Ghost King Staff Thing- It has three shots that’s you have to land. All of them, which might be a bit tough sometimes.
Green Orb- It has higher damage, but a lower RoF. It’s kinda like an A.S.S, but for Staff users.
Sentinel Staff Thing- A wavy version of Cosmic.


#39

Except with 10 more wis, which is OP on necro / mystic?


#40

You’ve got 90 mp heal. Bump that up to 100 and then see what people are talking about. Mystic is my favorite class, but there’s no contest vs wizard dps at high mp heal levels.


#41

I like how the entire original post is just the sentence “Is the wizard op?” yet it gets 40 replies.


#42

Just watch YinYarn’s video about the Wizard.


#43

I like how you necro bumped the original post.


#44

I wouldn’t call wizard op. However, he is one of the better classes.


#45

OP for sure!


#46

#47

Wizard is a glass cannon, but a highly effective one. Back in the day it had the highest average maxed stats but I doubt that’s still the case. I wouldn’t call it OP, maybe better than average.


#48

No.
And it’s boring as actual fuck