I know it’s opinions, but dam hearing “Cult is more fun than void is…”
Can’t say it
Post your unpopular opinions about realm here
Xaklor
#1978
can confirm for anyone who can’t see the effect you’re talking about, but deca does pretty much zero quality assurance on UGC content. as long as it’s not obviously broken and enough people say it’s fine it goes out the door into the world.
wasn’t sure where you were going with the “sort of agonism” angle at first and was about to mention that UGC (vanilla testers are fine) is more akin to an insufferable echo chamber than a competitive environment but I see that’s not related.
Puffagod
#1979
This is both painfully obvious and heartbreaking to me. The game has lost so much charm and personality thanks to this decentralised content generation model. Also yes thanks for clarifying - its not quite ‘agonism’ in the obvious sense (but what you identify is also a problem imo lol). Of course an environment where one’s only incentive for work is personal recognition is an environment highly favourable to egoism etc. I honestly think that the UGC group does not have the game’s best interests at heart (in general, I’m sure there are a few exceptions… i hope???)
Also another maybe unpopular opinion: the Court of Oryx is an absolutely terrible and poorly executed idea. Janus coming after the Stone Guardians is confusing game design for new players especially when he’s more or less always accessed. Both he and the court should be removed entirely. Each court dungeon (except Secluded Thicket) should be given an actual DUNGEON portion instead of just a bossroom that streamlines grind-culture, and these dungeons should be redistributed to drop from new repeatable event bosses or a new subset of slightly more powerful Heroes of Oryx. Also, the fact that they are ‘boss dungeons’ should be no excuse to re-use tilesets from other locations and this should be addressed.
Seelpit
#1980
And @Puffagod - this is not so much the case anymore.
It’s not like any UGC just creates whatever they want, then trots up to Deca with the finished product and says “hey put this in the game”, and it just gets shoved into the next patch. Maybe that’s how it used to work, but it doesn’t anymore.
I don’t know how much I can disclose about the actual process, but anything that comes into the game is approved by Deca from start to finish.
This is also something that’s slowly being worked on. Things like reworks generally aren’t UGC territory precisely because of potentially clashing visions with Deca (I’m guessing you’re referring to things such as LoD and Shaitan’s, which were both UGC-led projects from what I know).
Puffagod
#1981
Indeed! Reconstruction seems to be going in a possible right direction. But I’ve got to say it really has been slow. Realm has been losing its identity through literal years of negligent updates, started in the Kabam era and continuing more or less until the present. It looks like its going to take just as long if not longer to smooth over those bumps and return to that cohesive unity of vision which realm enjoyed during its early days (and it by no means has to be the same vision as back then, so long as it is consistent!). Sadly however I doubt I’ll still be here to see it.
I am also frightened that this effort might be too little too late - Oryx 3 was a perfect marshalling point for re-establishing the character of the game but actually it doesn’t seem to have had very much effect; furthermore every update adds a fistful of flashy and out-of-place cosmetics which - being products sold for actual money - will prove a fossilised stain on the game’s thematic and aesthetic consistency forever. The current complaints about the game’s advertising - those weird roblox figures which DECA seems intent on ramming down everyone’s throats - is a massive symptom of this lack of unified vision which is otherwise quite difficult to quantify 
Its good to hear that the modern UGC has slightly more responsibility but until I witness the realm’s return from a discordant mix of different art styles, writing styles, game design ethics, themes, styles of comedy, egos, etc, I’m afraid I will have to remain a pessimist :3
CosmoKnigh
#1983
Oryx’s escutcheon is a good main shield the loss of some range and some stun duration is insignificant especially if all the beams land and the large speed boost/dps boost is more useful than the bonus stats of a tiered shield especially in endgame dungeons where enemies are immune to stuns anyway
GammaGamer
#1987
Hello, DeeBomb. Your fact is, in fact, wrong.
If both use the T14 Katana and the enemy has 0 DEF, the Ninja deals 2688 DPS, while the Samurai deals 2298 DPS (since the Samu is able to perma Expose).
But we haven’t counted their abilities yet. We’ll give them both T7 of their respective abilities, and also give them both a Lvl 90 MHeal pet. That’s 23 MP per second. Each WIS point is 0.12 MP per sec (plus 0.5 as a base). WIS differences will not be counted because the overall difference is negligible. Do the math and you should get somewhere around 30-31 MP per second.
Given those numbers, it would take ~9 seconds to fully refill an empty MP bar. Applies to both classes, since they have the same max MP cap. We’ll just round this to 10. For the imaginary experiment, both classes will spam their abilities, wait 10 seconds, spam them again, and so on. The Samurai can spam three times, while the Ninja can spam only twice. Of course, this entire thing is just a rough estimate that doesn’t account for leftover MP and such.
2300 * 3 = 6900 => 690 DPS
1150 * 2 = 2300 => 230 DPS
That’s 2918 for the Ninja, and 2988 for the Samurai.
It’s true that angling and aiming a Waki can limit its versatility, and some shots may not hit. However, the Waki’s projectiles can pierce, which multiplies its damage capability. Also, it can often be easier and more efficient to get a few projectiles in rather than completely miss a shuriken and end up being a disappointment to your RotMG family. We also haven’t yet gotten into the additional DEX bonus that most tiered Wakis grant.
TL;DR: It definitely is possible for the Samurai to have a higher DPS.
PrimeGrind
#1990
looks like T7/T7. Problem is, if you are at waki-hitting range, then you may as well use rage claws, which definitely blows samurai out of the water. To me, samurai is better than ninja only in groups.
DeeBomb
#1991
In a group setting where both are exposed ninja would have higher dps, and in a solo setting there are stars that buff your dps. In a place where dps really matters (endgame dungeons) you are probably going to be in a group or have access to a star that buffs you.
GammaGamer
#1993
Not only do the claws have limited availability while the T7 Waki is up for grabs whenever someone feels like doing an O3, the item itself is somewhat overrated (good for sure, but not something to be that hyped about). For a Ninja to continuously use the claws, they would have to wait three seconds between each usage, since it takes that long to regenerate ~90 MP using a Lvl 90 pet + standard WIS. The 2025 damage that the claws’ projectiles can potentially dish out only amounts to 675 DPS, while the Waki can still maintain its 690. It’s also important to note that the damage output for the claws is more unpredictable. As for the Killer Instincts, there’s only a 1/3 chance of actually receiving the buff, and it’s not even like it buffs both DEX and ATT – it randomly chooses one of the two. And like I said in my previous post, we haven’t even yet talked about the whopping +7 DEX from the Waki that (I’ll have you know) is permanent.
With the way I’m wording things, I’m aware that it may seem I’m derogating the Ninja as an inferior class. I’m not. I’m just saying that the Samurai is more than capable of rivaling the Ninja when it comes to pure DPS. Exposing an enemy when fighting in a large group can be a godsend, and the group’s overall DPS can increase drastically. Even in solo play, the Samurai can still hold his ground. While this does creep out of the DPS question and more into the general “Samu vs Ninja” debate, the Samu’s ability to tank more while dealing basically the same damage, and sometimes even more, could make him a better choice in some areas. At some point, solo DPS becomes meaningless – no one cares if a character can deal 3000 or 3100 DMG in x seconds. I see people (and I don’t mean you guys, I’m talking about random people all over) comparing the two classes and coming to their conclusion that the Ninja is always better just because apparently a huge portion of the general playerbase thinks the Samu’s weak? ATT and DEX caps aren’t the entire story, and Wakis can do so much more than some people want to believe.
Yem
#1994
Oh I’ve got a good one.
The VBlade changes are fine. It’s pretty clear that it was made because they didn’t want the possibility of phase skipping or insta killing hanging over their head when designing a boss. That’s understandable. Same line of thinking as when they nerfed puri. (IMO they should’ve gone with a more EP approach and made it higher risk higher reward but like I said, its fine.)