can anyone share me the testing flash player link?
PT: Fungal Cavern
NeonHex
#51
I would prefer for more dungeons that have a different goal or a different way of doing it. For example, Abyss is supposed to be long and stuff, but instead people just rush it and it takes like 5 seconds. Since this is happening, I think that the boss should not spawn until all the enemies are killed or all of the rooms are found (something like that). Another example would be shatters. I did like 50+ shatts for the event and with a large group of people, it is a breeze. The way of doing it should also be different (they could also make it so there is a heroic of every dungeon and heroics have a limit of like 25 people and no pets. This also means that Deca would have to decrease the drop rate of whites and make the drop rates of white bags in heroics higher).
ive been playing for like less than 3 months and i have ice crown already wtf
Novachiz
#52
Rushing is a part of the game. Without it rogue would be useless and other classes would be less used. Not to mention it is much more dangerous to rush than to clear an abyss, even on an 8/8 knight.
As for player limits, there actually are player limits on everything but you can bypass them by entering at the same time as other people
Heroic everything would be awfully hard for certain dungeons. Not to mention it wouldnt work for a dungeon like LH where you have one main dungeon with two side dungeons.
Mynamerr
#53
A few thoughts:
-I can’t believe you recreated both the ice caves leech pad and the ice sphere
-The boss might seems hard at first glance, but since it does almost no status effects, its most likely just going to be a test of how much the group can heal
-Unless its very rewarding, this will most likely become just another dungeon that almost nobody does when there is no event or the new lost halls that everybody does with a giant discord group
KiIuA
#54
Petless solo.
Imma be here praying this thing drops a leather armor or a new dagger so that i have a purpose for running it
Boss starts at 4:54
@KiddF can we have the yellow shots from the boss’s 3rd to final phase revisioned ? they are soo annoying. also small purple mushrooms are overpowered as hell compared to the rest
Chickendos
#55
TL;DR: it’s easier than shatts/nest, likely because it can only be done on 8/8’s; dwarf miner is wierd as an enemy.
The dungeon seems to be not quite the level of a shatts/nest. To me, it feels much closer to a tomb/trench, this could simply be because it’s only possible to try on 8/8’s with WC tops, but it seems easier than shatts.
I love the design, and if we’re going to give feedback for the encounter also, I would like to say that making the dwarf miner a quest enemy seems to not fit what he’s supposed to be based on his interactions with players. He seems to be more like a Guil, or nexus shop dude. Making him count as a quest, there should be an actual fight with him - or make the boss itself count as aquest.
NeonHex
#57
I was only giving random examples.
But I do get what you are saying.
I just don’t like the super quick grinding aspect of the game.
Although I do prefer the game to be faster, I don’t like how it is super easy to get loot (you see people with good loot everywhere), and i don’t like how it is super easy to finish dungeons.
After all, they are dungeons.
What I am mainly trying to get at here is that every dungeon should be unique (except low level dungeons like forest maze, sprite world, snake pit, etc.). This way, it wouldn’t be as easy to progress through the game.
Straptrap
#58
I just got Ogmur from the encounter. Is that a placeholder or will that also drop in prod?
Keion
#60
The damage on the encounter is a bit too high, seeing as it is spawning in realm, it should be in line with other event damage. This is currently high bullet amount and high damage, making it essentially end-game material but in the realm itself.
Would also like to add that the spawn of the Brown capped mushrooms near the end is insane, make it spawn more often for more players, as even with just 1 player, those mushrooms make it nearly impossible without a decent pet.
BBruno
#61
Hum. If you are playing with melee,the encounter is not hell, but gets close, tbh. I think the damage from minions and the way they follow and attack you (purple, grey, blue, green and yellow mushrooms) should be nerfed a lot. It’s too unforgiving for a permadeath game. Too many insta pops. It’s unbalanced.
Lily
#64
Please please please please PLEASE nerf Mushroom Berserker.
It is not fair. It charges at you and IS LITERALLY DESIGNED TO POP YOU MORE EFFICIENTLY THAN AN ICE SPHERE. I don’t care that it has lower hp. At least Ice Spheres give you fair warning and only charge once. Mushroom Berserkers charge at you, give you an unavoidable instapop, and do it many times with like a split second margin in between each pop.
(also, good job on recreating leechpad)
Lily
#66
Major bug here! The world cannot function properly unless this is fixed. This is so gamebreaking that you need to spend hours to fix this, otherwise we are all doomed!
Sobak
#71
I didn’t have enough time to test the dungeon on all classes (done it only on archer, wizard and paladin), so it’s obviously subjective.
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The aesthetics of the dungeon are great, it actually feels like you’re exploring a cave system.
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The boss is very well-designed. It’s challenging, but fun and fair (save for a few phases). I especially like the bullet hell aspect of the fight: no cheap status effects, just high-damage projectiles flying from every direction. It always keeps you on your toes. Even with a good pet, you have to be somewhat decent at dodging.
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Nerfing base HP of the enemies and making the dungeon shorter was a very good idea. The previous version felt way too long and boring. Also the enemies had way too much HP for a dungeon that’s somewhere between tomb and shatters in terms of difficulty.
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Might be out of the topic, but i like the idea of guaranteed white bag drops on testing (yeah, i know ogmur is just a placeholder, but it still was a nice addition). It might give some players more motivation to actually test stuff.
Now for the stuff I didn’t like:
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The leech pad and the whole “explore the dungeon to open a way to the boss” gimmick. I don’t think that even needs an explanation: mechanics like this just DON’T work in RoTMG. It’s not an issue during testing, where the runs are usually done solo or with small groups of experienced players who are willing to cooperate, but production is an entirely different experience. During public runs, about 90% of the players will probably just stand on the pad and wait for the drill to load, while only 10% will actually do something useful. It seems like the devs are trying to prevent leeching by adding large XP bonus to the crystals, but I doubt that will work: fame is nearly useless now anyway.
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The large green mushrooms are absolutely awful. Charging to a nearest player without giving them almost no time to react and instapopping them is NOT a good enemy design. Currently they are even more dangerous than pre-nerf ice spheres. Considering the fact that players on production get regularly popped even by temple statues, i can see the mushroom berserkers being the №1 source of player deaths in the dungeon, at least during the first few weeks. At least give them a 0.5 - 1 second delay before releasing the shotgun and/or make the bullets deal less damage, so they can’t instakill you.
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The large purple mushrooms. They spawn too many projectiles (especially during the first phase), which makes it very difficult for melee classes to land a hit. Maybe they have an easy pattern and there’s a reliable way to stand close to them without the risk of getting hit multiple times, but I haven’t figured it out. If 2 of them spawn close to each other (i’ve seen that happen in the encounter), it becomes almost impossible for a short range class.
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The crystal worm father phase of the boss fight. The projectiles are slow and easy to dodge, but there are too many of them. Melees have a very hard time getting to the head.
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The last phase of the boss fight, after all body segments are destroyed. It feels way too chaotic and there are way too many projectiles: adding 5 more bullets to an already difficult shot pattern feels like an overkill. I haven’t found a safe way to manuever between bullets: all successful fights came down to killing the head before it could kill me.
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The XP inconsistency. Some big mushrooms give 1000 XP on kill and some only give 195. Also, the boss gives only 600 XP, like the lesser worms. The dungeon is obviously still in development, but small things like this are sometimes ignored by the devs (don’t forget the problem with heroic dungeons that was patched way too late).
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The realm encounter feels cheap and lazy. I’m sorry, but fighting swarms of copypasted minions is neither balanced nor fun. There are way too many enemies and way too many bullets during the last waves, and often you can’t even adequately dodge because of that. The miniboss in the final wave is alright though.
PT: Fungal Cavern part 2 UTs